Raymond McGovern is a former Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) analyst, serving from 1963 to 1990.
His CIA career began under President John F. Kennedy and lasted through the presidency of George H. W. Bush. McGovern advised Henry Kissinger during the Richard Nixon administration, and during the Ronald Reagan administration he chaired National Intelligence Estimates and prepared the President's Daily Brief.
He received the Intelligence Commendation Medal at his retirement but returned it in 2006 to protest the CIA's involvement in torture.
Steve and Ray discuss:
01:25 Ray McGovern's assessment of the JFK assassination
26:10 Hunter Biden's laptop
30:50 Ukraine and the U.S. intelligence services' role in the deep state
55:20 Strategic implications of the Ukraine war for the U.S.
01:03:38 Are things worse today, versus 1963?
Books referenced in this episode:
JFK and the Unspeakable
Mary's Mosaic: The CIA Conspiracy to Murder John F. Kennedy