tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post7311261108251498798..comments2024-01-13T18:57:18.243-05:00Comments on Information Processing: Pais: Pauli aspie?Steve Hsuhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02428333897272913660noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-63998233946757791332011-08-28T18:26:19.710-04:002011-08-28T18:26:19.710-04:00@ Lazy,
Just make contraception a condition for o...@ Lazy,<br /><br />Just make contraception a condition for ongoing eligibility to welfare.@google-b3f6e49dab8fd6757e1426fa4ae29fca:disqus <br /><br />http://kidshealth.org/teen/sexual_health/contraception/contraception_depo.htmlbottinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-22309697200528106892011-08-28T07:14:47.403-04:002011-08-28T07:14:47.403-04:00Somehow my responses aren't showing up. Noy go...Somehow my responses aren't showing up. Noy going to type them again.<br /><br />I'm ashamed to say I do sometimes watch tv. Two characters who have very high social intelligence, but who might also be characterized as rude, inconsiderate, or neurotic are House, MD and Larry David; Davidmay be like that in real life. <br /><br />That I have claimed 1. "people smarts" is an MtMorunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-10001473281343009022011-08-27T15:27:05.070-04:002011-08-27T15:27:05.070-04:00I responded here at some length but must have made...I responded here at some length but must have made some mistake because it isn't here.<br /><br />1. Yes they are stupid. If they they really are as described which I doubt. Fischer and Capablanca are a great example. Fischer lived for chess, Capi never studied and was an athlete, bridge player, lady's man, etc. Easy Capi was smarter than Fischer. <br /><br />Your second description of MtMorunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-13052805960248534072011-08-27T13:36:20.763-04:002011-08-27T13:36:20.763-04:00I would think that over time non-coercive eugenics...I would think that over time non-coercive eugenics would shrink government enormously. That's not the primary reason to do it - the primary reason is the future of humanity - but it's relevant to the issue of gigantic government departments discussed above. It would be many times cheaper to buy people off at the outset than to house their offspring in prisons, etc. later on. Lazy Glossophiliacnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-84644186306883018082011-08-27T13:21:36.802-04:002011-08-27T13:21:36.802-04:00I believe non-coercive eugenics to be the most mor...I believe non-coercive eugenics to be the most moral position. Coercive eugenics is immoral in my eyes, as is doing nothing while the world is moving in the dysgenic direction. Non-coercive eugenics would involve giving felons, recipients of public assistance, etc. monetary incentives for sterilization. If they don't want to take the money, they can have as many kids as they want, though of Lazy Glossophiliacnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-58429831663357833282011-08-27T13:07:01.792-04:002011-08-27T13:07:01.792-04:00"By that definition Newton, Erdos and lots of..."By that definition Newton, Erdos and lots of other famously smart nerds were <br />stupid."<br /><br />1. I think the nerdiness of these people is exaggerated 2. Yeah. That's right. They were "stupid". That is, had lower IQs than but Steve especially gifted in one area to which they dedicated all their time. A great example: Fischer vs Capablanca. Fischer lived for chess.MtMorunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-48952744395049668602011-08-27T12:39:22.778-04:002011-08-27T12:39:22.778-04:00 "Those who cannot read people, who cannot pr... "Those who cannot read people, who cannot predict other people's behavior, who cannot see what real motivations are are stupid..."<br /><br />By that definition Newton, Erdos and lots of other famously smart nerds were stupid. It's a stupid definition. We're dealing with two kinds of intelligence here - the intuitive, unconscious social intelligence and the conscious Lazy Glossophiliacnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-60618773615176314012011-08-27T12:34:46.836-04:002011-08-27T12:34:46.836-04:00"The mainstream, politically correct view is ..."The mainstream, politically correct view is that most negative outcomes are <br />society's fault, that there can rarely be anything congenitally and irrevocably <br />wrong with the individual."<br /><br />That's just conservative truthiness. Did Rush Limbaugh tell you that? It is the opposite of the truth, though such a point of view is often feigned out of politeness. And MtMorunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-32179115355325271072011-08-27T11:19:42.326-04:002011-08-27T11:19:42.326-04:00"...thus there is nothing wrong EVER with the..."...thus there is nothing wrong EVER with the society."<br /><br />I think you've set up a straw man here. The mainstream, politically correct view is that most negative outcomes are society's fault, that there can rarely be anything congenitally and irrevocably wrong with the individual.<br /><br />"...the multiplication of psychiatry's disorders motivated by greed, Lazy Glossophiliacnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-85065229016048970542011-08-27T10:58:58.129-04:002011-08-27T10:58:58.129-04:00All just theorizing. No facts.
"People smar...All just theorizing. No facts. <br /><br />"People smarts definitely exist and different people have them in different amounts, but it's hard to measure them."<br />There are no such things.<br /><br />"IQ is easy to measure."<br /><br />IQ is not measured. IQ is a measure.<br /><br />"at getting what they want from others"<br /><br />Another word for that is MtMorunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-9327534387255311082011-08-27T09:37:59.383-04:002011-08-27T09:37:59.383-04:00People smarts definitely exist and different peopl...People smarts definitely exist and different people have them in different amounts, but it's hard to measure them. IQ is easy to measure. People smarts are processed unconsciously. If you ask the people who are good at socializing, at getting what they want from others, at getting others to like them, how they do it, most of them won't be able to tell you. They do it on instinct. In Lazy Glossophiliacnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-32794418377717516662011-08-26T09:34:57.347-04:002011-08-26T09:34:57.347-04:00Pauli was certainly not an "Aspie". He b...Pauli was certainly not an "Aspie". He belonged to the other great category of psychologically defective over-achievers, the intensely insecure. Feynman being the prize exhibit in this category, with his carefully tended garden of obviously mendacious "stories" about himself.matmcinnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-10871660636511927222011-08-26T02:09:11.127-04:002011-08-26T02:09:11.127-04:00At least among the hoi poloi Asperger's reinfo...At least among the hoi poloi Asperger's reinforces the self-serving nerd stereotype, even among nerds. That is, the stupid can say to themselves with the authority of psychiatry that, "Yes I am stupid but smart people are socially retarded."<br /><br />Why should g not include people smarts? It should, but people smarts is NOT a behavioral trait. Two people with equal empathy or MtMorunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-13155930270786381782011-08-26T01:48:06.993-04:002011-08-26T01:48:06.993-04:00entities must not be multiplied beyond necessity
I...<i>entities must not be multiplied beyond necessity</i><br />If only psychiatrists believed in this. But more disorders means more moolah and a feeling of relevance. <br /><br />That sociopathy and Asperger's are even real things is questionable to say the least.<br /><br />An example: in the US it has been found that those diagnosed as Aspies have relatively low non-verbal intelligence. In MtMorunoreply@blogger.com