tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post3546929167087521967..comments2024-01-13T18:57:18.243-05:00Comments on Information Processing: "I'm not Asian"...Steve Hsuhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02428333897272913660noreply@blogger.comBlogger154125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-37788291558440630452014-08-01T16:12:32.845-04:002014-08-01T16:12:32.845-04:00Having children of mixed descent (european/chinese...Having children of mixed descent (european/chinese) I find this discussion interesting. Not surprisingly, people are rather emotionally invested. <br /><br /><br />Personally, I prefer to see things though the prism of sociobiology. I think it's pretty obvious that, on average, Asians (in particular Chinese) present with higher g values. I've always liked brainy women, mostly Asian (a millermp1noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-75527286920031439012014-08-01T15:59:10.461-04:002014-08-01T15:59:10.461-04:00Don't worry. They will. Just like the Jews did...Don't worry. They will. Just like the Jews did. Except there are more of them. better get used to it now that the shoe will be on the other foot.millermp1noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-38813793671930647512014-08-01T15:58:15.353-04:002014-08-01T15:58:15.353-04:00The numbers don't bear this out, though, do th...The numbers don't bear this out, though, do they? Why is Caltech (a truly race-blind institution) over 60% Asian?millermp1noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-34180588565352758862014-08-01T15:54:31.493-04:002014-08-01T15:54:31.493-04:00Couldn't the same have been said for Jews? And...Couldn't the same have been said for Jews? And the need for Jewish quotas?millermp1noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-63396532213090608842011-12-09T20:14:19.462-05:002011-12-09T20:14:19.462-05:00While we're on anecdotes, my sister had a long...While we're on anecdotes, my sister had a long-time boyfriend who thought he was Thai until he was 29 and his parents told him he was Chinese.InfinityBallnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-86102929785666942102011-12-09T13:29:20.525-05:002011-12-09T13:29:20.525-05:00David, trying to talk to people who's mind is ...David, trying to talk to people who's mind is so calcified is like trying to talk to a brick wall. Luke Nguyenhttp://www.facebook.com/lukevnguyennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-66428295653966694762011-12-09T13:23:24.298-05:002011-12-09T13:23:24.298-05:00"I'm not Asian" could be more aptly ..."I'm not Asian" could be more aptly title "I'm not Chinese". At the heart of it, It boils down to just that. Luke Nguyenhttp://www.facebook.com/lukevnguyennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-70646088869989770132011-12-07T16:31:36.919-05:002011-12-07T16:31:36.919-05:00You're discriminated against? Please shut the...You're discriminated against? Please shut the fuck up, whiny Asian. You make more money than whites on average and you get into best colleges at very high rates. We don't want you as community organizers. We want you as engineers. Otherwise, we don't want you.Law Studentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-47058648097231207772011-12-07T16:28:12.682-05:002011-12-07T16:28:12.682-05:00East Asians need to stop the complaining about Ame...East Asians need to stop the complaining about America. They already get much more (in a good way) than they already deserve. I'm a recent law graduate, and in law there seems to be some affirmative action for Asians. I know some who were offered good jobs by this route, while I'm unemployed. Basically, they got jobs because while my family has been here for 150 years, theirs just Law Studentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-45499543693049324732011-12-07T06:38:29.385-05:002011-12-07T06:38:29.385-05:00Again, we're talking about white racism exclus...Again, we're talking about white racism exclusively.<br />"Espenshade found that Asian-Americans needed a 1550 SAT to have an equal chance of getting into an elite college as white students with a 1410 or black students with an 1100."<br />Does anybody notice the 1100 number here? Everyone is fine with that, that's not racism?<br />First of all, why is it wrong for someone with Ene Denehttp://pulse.yahoo.com/_QGUOKPDPIPMOPJK7RCCXIALHRInoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-14810151966916106912011-12-07T06:29:12.116-05:002011-12-07T06:29:12.116-05:00America is currently declining. If this continues...America is currently declining. If this continues for a few more decades, it will no longer matter how well East Asians are treated in it because it won't be a better place to live than East Asia.<br /><br />In order for this decline to be stopped, the political system needs to return to serving the interests of the American middle class. This is already unlikely, but by joining the racial Christopher Changhttp://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=723726480noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-2976980787920701792011-12-07T05:22:45.212-05:002011-12-07T05:22:45.212-05:00MATTHEW MONIZ bailed out of engineering at Notre D...MATTHEW MONIZ bailed out of engineering at Notre Dame in the fall of his sophomore year. He had been the kind of recruit most engineering departments dream about. He had scored an 800 in math on the SAT and in the 700s in both reading and writing. He also had taken Calculus BC and five other Advanced Placement courses at a prep school in Washington, D.C., and had long planned to major in Kevin Rosenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-26833040856397953962011-12-06T17:59:32.473-05:002011-12-06T17:59:32.473-05:00It's not just the Asian stereotype that they d...It's not just the Asian stereotype that they dislike.<br /><br />http://www.theatlantic.com/past/docs/issues/2001/09/flanagan.htmIf anything, I would say admissions officers have more of an issue with striving middle classers than with East Asians [i]sensu stricto[/i].Guy_Brodudenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-20005098602582490322011-12-06T14:42:08.890-05:002011-12-06T14:42:08.890-05:00"I'd bet that virtually none of them even..."I'd bet that virtually none of them even remotely fall into your category of disliking Asians."<br /><br />IIRC, Steve Hsu has linked to articles detailing how people with intimate knowledge of the college admissions system have observed that college admissions officers routinely stereotype Asian Americans in a rather negative fashion. I would characterize this as animus bordering Yan Shenhttp://profiles.google.com/yanshen71786noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-8472388505068992352011-12-06T12:28:08.924-05:002011-12-06T12:28:08.924-05:00Well, if you're arguing that maybe 5-10% of Am...Well, if you're arguing that maybe 5-10% of American whites significantly dislike Asians, I might not disagree with that. But doesn't that also mean that 90-95% of whites get along pretty well with Asians? And would that number be so much lower than for all sorts of various other ethnic-pairwise relationships?<br /><br />Anyway, if you look at the individuals responsible for RKU1noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-36039511620780626652011-12-06T03:17:10.852-05:002011-12-06T03:17:10.852-05:00I think you have a pretty mature and well thought ...I think you have a pretty mature and well thought out position, and I thank you for sharing that. I wish more Asians were like you and not Yan Shen. You sound like you very healthily adapted to conditions to America and have no inferiority complex towards whites. <br /><br />I am a big believer in HBD, and do think most group differences have to be explained in terms of that, so I search for Kevin Rosenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-65562710423870562982011-12-06T03:05:10.794-05:002011-12-06T03:05:10.794-05:00Perhaps you should try seeing things from the POV ...Perhaps you should try seeing things from the POV of the country you have decided to immigrate to (or your family decided). We have a perspective too, and it might help you to put aside the racial POV and see it from a larger human POV. First of all, most whites would agree that compared to Asians we dont work as hard rather than deny it as you claim we do, and thats just it - we dont want to Kevin Rosenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-73250328431466352112011-12-06T02:31:10.820-05:002011-12-06T02:31:10.820-05:00Kevin, I don't have anything backwards. Do yo...Kevin, I don't have anything backwards. Do you not know that thing call Filial piety? I don't think you fully appreciate the pressures to conform in Asian societies to the extent I have. People are not free to be themselves, their actions, motivations is always superseded by the need of the family. You are not Asian, if you were born into Asian society, I guarantee you, you would not Luke Nguyenhttp://www.facebook.com/lukevnguyennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-62463128515492470982011-12-06T02:01:55.103-05:002011-12-06T02:01:55.103-05:00Right, so Yan Shen is clearly an ethnic chauvinist...Right, so Yan Shen is clearly an ethnic chauvinist, although to be fair of the softer kind. Its a really really big deal for him to think that Asians are intellectually superior to whites in every last possible way. He just cant handle it that in important ways - maybe the most important ways - Asians consistently underperform whites intellectually. If you derive your entire self-esteem and Kevin Rosenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-9607243504351498662011-12-06T00:32:00.049-05:002011-12-06T00:32:00.049-05:00Hit the liked button by mistake.
http://www.jewis...Hit the liked button by mistake.<br /><br />http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/anti-semitism/harvard.html<br /><br />"In 1922, Harvard's president,<br /> A. Lawrence Lowell, proposed a quota on the<br /> number of Jews gaining admission to the university.<br /> Lowell was convinced that Harvard could only<br /> survive if the majority of its Yan Shenhttp://profiles.google.com/yanshen71786noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-87152491189416103192011-12-06T00:25:42.719-05:002011-12-06T00:25:42.719-05:00"I seem to recall that the Jews, perhaps bein..."I seem to recall that the Jews, perhaps being more far verbally <br />aggressive, actually did make a fuss about the discrimination they <br />encountered."<br /><br />No, they excelled so much that colleges had no choice to accept them if they wanted to be relevant. Its not like all those racists WASPs got together and decided to stop being racists because some Jews complained.David Versacenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-65240652312972243652011-12-05T23:16:33.476-05:002011-12-05T23:16:33.476-05:00I have never suffered any "venomous hatred an...I have never suffered any "venomous hatred and vicious discrimination" from universities. Granted, my experience was just with Caltech and the UC system, which both have Asian-friendly reputations. But the UCs, at least, are huge. I don't think there is a severe shortage of academic opportunity for Asian-Americans.<br /><br />My own reasons for being prepared to stay outside the Christopher Changhttp://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=723726480noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-30807736409393378922011-12-05T23:14:48.431-05:002011-12-05T23:14:48.431-05:00"I really wouldn't get so worked up if I ..."I really wouldn't get so worked up if I were you. The list of crazy and<br /> stupid things America is doing is so enormously long that the (obvious)<br /> policy of racial discrimination against Asians in elite university <br />admissions is barely visible with a magnifying glass."<br /><br />So what do you propose East Asian Americans do? Sit there quietly and take it up the assYan Shenhttp://profiles.google.com/yanshen71786noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-71128194379632964302011-12-05T23:11:34.301-05:002011-12-05T23:11:34.301-05:00I really wouldn't get so worked up if I were y...I really wouldn't get so worked up if I were you. The list of crazy and stupid things America is doing is so enormously long that the (obvious) policy of racial discrimination against Asians in elite university admissions is barely visible with a magnifying glass.<br /><br />And it's absurd to claim that Christopher Chang "is hated and resented by millions of white Americans" RKU1noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-62301759487759611862011-12-05T22:50:45.222-05:002011-12-05T22:50:45.222-05:00"Being illoyal to your host group is just a d..."Being illoyal to your host group is just a dark way to live, foreigner or native."<br /><br />Perhaps FanHsu would be more loyal to the United States if its elite institutions didn't blatantly discriminate against his children. To put it a bit crudely, it's hard to be entirely loyal to your host country when you're taking it up the ass from them. Many East Asian Americans Yan Shenhttp://profiles.google.com/yanshen71786noreply@blogger.com