tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post1444936447357622681..comments2024-01-13T18:57:18.243-05:00Comments on Information Processing: Finding the Next EinsteinSteve Hsuhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02428333897272913660noreply@blogger.comBlogger186125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-25344527862954299022012-01-27T06:36:50.211-05:002012-01-27T06:36:50.211-05:00It's interesting the way scientists do science...It's interesting the way scientists do science. They have a theory and when they get data, instead of trying to adopt the theory to data, they try to adopt data to the theory. It makes me sick and I've lost all respect to most of the scientists and I'm seriously.<br />Feynman was one of the greatest scientists of all time, one of the sharpest minds and his IQ is "only 125" .Ene Denehttp://pulse.yahoo.com/_QGUOKPDPIPMOPJK7RCCXIALHRInoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-46967700510943345192012-01-05T21:59:09.600-05:002012-01-05T21:59:09.600-05:00@MtMoRu:
Babylonians and Egyptians were the firs...@MtMoRu:<br /><br /><br />Babylonians and Egyptians were the first to ruminate over mathematical abstractions (e.g. fractions, geometry, etcetera). In addition, the Chinese and Indians (just to name a few) have developed a concept of mathematics on their own. In fact, any modern textbook on the history of mathematics can contradict your viewpoint. <br /><br />(As an example, please research the anon47noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-86588800627440954372012-01-03T19:37:55.741-05:002012-01-03T19:37:55.741-05:00My handle here or at CC, at (GOOG mail entity) dot...My handle here or at CC, at (GOOG mail entity) dot com. I don't check daily but will definitely see it.sinerusenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-16772702218083513312012-01-03T19:34:49.425-05:002012-01-03T19:34:49.425-05:00Hmm... good advice!Hmm... good advice!steve hsuhttp://duende.uoregon.edu/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-68182957190368516272012-01-03T19:09:35.108-05:002012-01-03T19:09:35.108-05:00Sineruse / Siserune: There are many, many comments...Sineruse / Siserune: There are many, many comments on this blog that I completely disagree with, on both sides of the argument that you are involved in. Every blog owner has to decide how much effort they are willing to devote to dealing with comments, and I have mainly adopted a laissez faire attitude. (Also, I think it is interesting to see opinions of the sort that are normally suppressed.) steve hsuhttp://duende.uoregon.edu/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-29947984898616382412012-01-02T22:18:55.478-05:002012-01-02T22:18:55.478-05:00Steve,
Not that this is of any importance in the ...Steve,<br /><br />Not that this is of any importance in the grand scheme of this blog (assume a scheme that is grand), but you've really now lost me and, I would imagine, others like me. <br /><br />Any physicist whose research delves into population genetics would sooner or later have to discuss Einstein. But how could a blog on the topic de-generate so quickly into a debate about Asian anonymous_HLQ890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-52704283366352065052012-01-01T19:37:45.488-05:002012-01-01T19:37:45.488-05:00Obviously, I was saying how their IMO credentials ...Obviously, I was saying how their IMO credentials (winning multiple medals) under predict performance. # of population in native country is irrelevant here.<br /><br />And if you want to argue, likewise East Asian Americans are outnumbered by non-white Hispanic Americans by at least 30 times. Some double standards here?Ju Hyung Ahnhttp://juhyungahn.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-47156152283292254122012-01-01T18:25:39.199-05:002012-01-01T18:25:39.199-05:00The core problem seems to be that the Chinese scie...The core problem seems to be that the Chinese scientists have trouble connecting with the global scientific community unless they emigrate to Western countries. As you said, all top six heavily cited scientists in material sciences are Chinese, but five out of six hail from American universities! In contrast, all but one Japanese scientist and all Koreans on both lists publish from universities esmithnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-78703966471798634872012-01-01T06:56:39.055-05:002012-01-01T06:56:39.055-05:00> Well, I'd say that Sineruse raises some p...> Well, I'd say that Sineruse raises some perfectly valid points, but I <br />think his seeming obsessiveness on this subject leads him to miss the <br />forest for the trees...<br /><br />I'm willing to make specific arguments and defend them on the merits, which is not the same as "obsessiveness" by any stretch. I first mentioned, in passing, the phenomenon of Asian sinerusenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-42835835801836705842012-01-01T05:47:39.164-05:002012-01-01T05:47:39.164-05:00As we have seen, many people are "pretty sure...As we have seen, many people are "pretty sure" of things that are totally false. I actually had never heard of that blog, nor do I operate in circles where acronyms like WN are common. The term "white nationalist" (not that I specified my race or anything) seems to be a Yan Shen-ism for "making arguments I find hard to dispute on the merits".sinerusenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-62366666026525393042012-01-01T05:32:20.275-05:002012-01-01T05:32:20.275-05:00> For some reason, foreign East Asians are vast...> For some reason, foreign East Asians are vastly outperforming foreign Europeans & Canadians with similar IMO credentials.<br /><br />Thanks for the continued support. Your new table, like the old one, corroborates the model that predicts underperformance for (US) East Asians. <br /> <br />Foreign East Asians come from larger countries with far more difficult IMO selection than the sinerusenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-19903802813118784752011-12-31T05:46:15.105-05:002011-12-31T05:46:15.105-05:00Computer programming:Top Coder Rankings(username|c...Computer programming:Top Coder Rankings(username|country)<br />1.AC Rush-China<br />2.Shangjingbo-China<br />3.Zhuojie-China<br />4.a9108tc-China<br />5.crazyboy-China<br />6.liympanda-China<br />7.WJMZBMR-China<br />8.g201513-China<br />7.jx-wuyi-China<br />8Blue.Mary-China.Edwinhttp://pulse.yahoo.com/_G45JDQEMTCOP5F37SXY7BOIR4Ynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-68203154313822529932011-12-31T02:19:29.903-05:002011-12-31T02:19:29.903-05:00Shockley is an interesting case study, and there a...Shockley is an interesting case study, and there are lots of other white Gentile scientists with that sort of genuine eccentricity (mental illness?): George Price sprung to mind, but it's a long list to be sure, especially if you are willing to stretch back a few centuries. Anecdotally, I do think most Asians would tend closer to the Teller/von Neumann end of the personality spectrum.Guy_Brodudenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-8284888523380496402011-12-30T21:22:45.271-05:002011-12-30T21:22:45.271-05:00I largely agree: the most parsimonious explanation...I largely agree: the most parsimonious explanation is a significant Asian Math advantage. But it is worth pointing out that there is an important disanalogy between black basketball performance and Asian math performance. Whereas black representation increases dramatically along the pipeline (highschool-->college-->NBA), Sineruse argues that Asian representation shrinks. If Sineruse is tractalnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-65592818219140670442011-12-30T20:01:26.313-05:002011-12-30T20:01:26.313-05:00I am pretty sure Sineruse is the same guy who writ...I am pretty sure Sineruse is the same guy who writes the blog http://racehist.blogspot.com<br /><br />He is on relatively good behavior here, but he's a WN. Just look at his blog, esp. the comments.turingcompletenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-87144676422429549402011-12-30T19:19:17.733-05:002011-12-30T19:19:17.733-05:00"Courtesy of Siserune (Sineruse?)
http://talk..."Courtesy of Siserune (Sineruse?)<br />http://talk.collegeconfidentia..."<br /><br />Yes. That's the same Sineruse. You managed to find his numerous posts from years ago on the forum College Confidential. He has literally been obsessing over East Asians for years. At the risk of being repetitive, let me state that I have never met anyone who has been so singularly obsessed with Yan Shenhttp://profiles.google.com/yanshen71786noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-40401140360458444872011-12-30T19:16:08.841-05:002011-12-30T19:16:08.841-05:00Courtesy of Siserune (Sineruse?)
http://talk.col...Courtesy of Siserune (Sineruse?)<br /><br /><br />http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/massachusetts-institute-technology/904583-data-putnam-competition-performance-us-domestic-students-mit-all-schools.html<br /><br /><br />*removed foreign non-IMO<br /><br /><br /> <br /><br /><br />2009 Putnam (IMO contestants International)<br /><br /><br /> <br /><br /><br />Putnam Fellows<br /><br /><br /> <Ju Hyung Ahnhttp://juhyungahn.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-63740170464284305562011-12-30T19:14:16.407-05:002011-12-30T19:14:16.407-05:00Courtesy of Siserune (Sineruse?)
http://talk.col...Courtesy of Siserune (Sineruse?)<br /><br /><br />http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/massachusetts-institute-technology/904583-data-putnam-competition-performance-us-domestic-students-mit-all-schools.html<br /><br /><br />*removed foreign non-IMO<br /><br /><br /> <br /><br /><br />2009 Putnam (IMO contestants International)<br /><br /><br /> <br /><br /><br />Putnam Fellows<br /><br /><br /> <Ju Hyung Ahnhttp://juhyungahn.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-24852683745273225232011-12-30T18:32:02.903-05:002011-12-30T18:32:02.903-05:00My view of Lahn's results was that he was the ...My view of Lahn's results was that he was the first person in history to discover clear evidence for some of the likely candidate genes whose appearance created the necessary mental basis for the rise of human civilization. If so, I'd say that's certainly a Nobel Prize worthy research result. <br /><br />Otherwise, I was using "Nordic" in the more modern sense, when it'RKU1noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-43430505741288778552011-12-30T18:22:15.394-05:002011-12-30T18:22:15.394-05:00Refer to bottom:
For some reason, foreign East Asi...Refer to bottom:<br />For some reason, foreign East Asians are vastly outperforming foreign Europeans & Canadians with similar IMO credentials.<br />Given that we get more international IMO talent than domestic ones (limited to only 6 each year) in Putnam, the statistics seem at least as relevant as the US ones.<br />Even assuming there are more foreign East Asian IMO talents (probably not byJu Hyung Ahnhttp://juhyungahn.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-76136103542063855502011-12-30T18:15:55.701-05:002011-12-30T18:15:55.701-05:00After losing an argument, Steve's response is ...After losing an argument, Steve's response is to ban me and delete my final comment. Repost:<br /><br />"You do realize that +.5 SD (or whatever) is *relative* to a reference population, and that you have to separate performance of that population from others in making a calculation?"<br /><br />So where exactly does a non-Jewish white reference population come in? Because only banned_rogicnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-20486587795326018982011-12-30T18:12:55.451-05:002011-12-30T18:12:55.451-05:00So after losing an argument, Steve's response ...So after losing an argument, Steve's response is to ban me and delete my final comment. Repost:<br /><br />"You do realize that +.5 SD (or whatever) is *relative* to a reference population, and that you have to separate performance of that population from others in making a calculation?"<br /><br />So where exactly does a non-Jewish white reference population come in? Because only banned_rogicnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-46048644431314174942011-12-30T18:11:04.451-05:002011-12-30T18:11:04.451-05:00So after losing an argument, Steve's response ...So after losing an argument, Steve's response is to ban me and delete my final comment. Repost:<br /><br />"You do realize that +.5 SD (or whatever) is *relative* to a reference population, and that you have to separate performance of that population from others in making a calculation?"<br /><br />So where exactly does a non-Jewish white reference population come in? Because only banned_rogicnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-70713670505747734352011-12-30T17:59:38.367-05:002011-12-30T17:59:38.367-05:00Foreign Influence Among Putnam Fellows
2010 2 EA (...Foreign Influence Among Putnam Fellows<br />2010 2 EA (1 China, 1 Korea), 0 white<br />2009 3 EA (2 China, 1 Canada), 0 white<br />2008 2 EA (1 Korea, 1 Canada), 0 white<br />2007 2 EA (2 China), 0 white<br />2006 2 EA (1 China, 1 Canada), 0 white<br /><br />There isn't big enough differential in foreign IMO recruits between East Asians and white population to warrant such a lopsided Ju Hyung Ahnhttp://juhyungahn.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-30595372408135498162011-12-30T17:21:00.531-05:002011-12-30T17:21:00.531-05:00Looks like European IMO credentials tend to over p...Looks like European IMO credentials tend to over predict their performance in Putnam.Ju Hyung Ahnhttp://juhyungahn.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.com