tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post116822453544531714..comments2024-01-13T18:57:18.243-05:00Comments on Information Processing: Asians at BerkeleySteve Hsuhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02428333897272913660noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-8178099309047943162011-07-22T13:19:04.780-04:002011-07-22T13:19:04.780-04:00Why You Shouldn't Identify as Asian When You A...Why You Shouldn't Identify as Asian When You Apply to College or Grad School: http://jadeluckclub.com/why-you-shouldnt-identify-as-asian-when-applying-to-college/JadeLuckClubhttp://twitter.com/JadeLuckClubnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-62862536257980968022011-07-22T13:18:45.863-04:002011-07-22T13:18:45.863-04:00Why You Shouldn't Identify as Asian When Apply...Why You Shouldn't Identify as Asian When Applying to College or Grad School...<br />http://jadeluckclub.com/why-you-shouldnt-identify-as-asian-when-applying-to-college/JadeLuckClubhttp://twitter.com/JadeLuckClubnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-1168574713369927972007-01-11T23:05:00.000-05:002007-01-11T23:05:00.000-05:00Endless further discussion here:http://www.ephblog...Endless further discussion here:<BR/><BR/>http://www.ephblog.com/archives/003492.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-1168443343021457592007-01-10T10:35:00.000-05:002007-01-10T10:35:00.000-05:00People are used to thinking of racial preferences ...People are used to thinking of racial preferences in the standard black/white context, where the preference is used to increase the numbers of minority students.<BR/><BR/>But even though in "principle" this seems the same as preferences that limit the numbers of a minority group that would otherwise be overrepresented, there is a large practical difference.<BR/><BR/>If one applies a preference toAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-1168323254212667882007-01-09T01:14:00.000-05:002007-01-09T01:14:00.000-05:00Sam, congrats! I used to be a professor at Yale :-...Sam, congrats! I used to be a professor at Yale :-)<BR/><BR/>In the previous comment I was referring to not-so-elite state universities. Although not as prestigious as Yale, they are still offer amazing educational and research opportunities to students.Steve Hsuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02428333897272913660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-1168322339344920762007-01-09T00:58:00.000-05:002007-01-09T00:58:00.000-05:00Pressures--and numbers--have increased a lot since...Pressures--and numbers--have increased a lot since then, and there is rather a lot less breathing space, I think. The competition for transfer slots at many places is very intense, but it's still possible and commonly done. I suppose I'm still tracked into the 'hyper elite' admissions mindset, since they're the ones getting all the media coverage half the time.<BR/><BR/>And thanks for the luck, Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-1168305743813700402007-01-08T20:22:00.000-05:002007-01-08T20:22:00.000-05:00I don't know how well it would work today, but th...I don't know how well it would work today, but thirty years ago I did just that - I got out of high school with a C+ average, went to junior college for two years, and transferred to Berkeley. Later I went to Harvard for a Master's. So, in my experience, the system was extremely forgiving, and it's been wonderful for me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-1168277248768549602007-01-08T12:27:00.000-05:002007-01-08T12:27:00.000-05:00The US system is very forgiving. If you don't have...The US system is very forgiving. If you don't have a good HS record, you can attend a junior college, transfer to, e.g., Berkeley or more typical state university, then get into a top grad school. You aren't doomed by not geting into Oxbridge from the beginning.<BR/><BR/>The admissions process here is very fine-grained - you have tests for writing, verbal and quant aptitude, plus "achievement" orSteve Hsuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02428333897272913660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-1168272682112213082007-01-08T11:11:00.000-05:002007-01-08T11:11:00.000-05:00Where does potential come into this? It's easy to...Where does potential come into this? It's easy to pump information into kids that are receptive to it but there are plenty of late developers. <BR/><BR/>I'm not sure how the American system works. Can it distinguish between applicants that perform exceptionally in science+maths and those that are good across a broad range of subjects (and have a wider but less deep skill set).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-1168232474793211902007-01-08T00:01:00.000-05:002007-01-08T00:01:00.000-05:00Rigo: one of the benefits of Eugene is the strong ...Rigo: one of the benefits of Eugene is the strong school system here. However, there is always the temptation to go the private school route. I have friends in NYC and it is amazing what kind of posh, elite education their kids have access to.<BR/><BR/>I hope college admissions has eased up in competitiveness when my kids are applying! The demographic trend (big bulge of HS/college age students Steve Hsuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02428333897272913660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-1168232301001053892007-01-07T23:58:00.000-05:002007-01-07T23:58:00.000-05:00Sam,I was almost going to do the Incredibles, but ...Sam,<BR/><BR/>I was almost going to do the Incredibles, but as it is I did this one while on a plane. Just too much to do!<BR/><BR/>I look forward to your post. I'm curious what kids today think of all this :-)<BR/><BR/>Best of luck with your applications...Steve Hsuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02428333897272913660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-1168230632060284452007-01-07T23:30:00.000-05:002007-01-07T23:30:00.000-05:00We're just going to have to divvy these up in the ...We're just going to have to divvy these up in the future beforehand... I call 'The Incredibles' sometime tomorrow, though. However I still have some very interesting thoughts about this article which are going to require some polling of the significant asian community here at Exeter (and some talking to people I know are applying to Berkeley!).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-1168230193662872812007-01-07T23:23:00.000-05:002007-01-07T23:23:00.000-05:00Prof. Hsu,Another 'I agree' is in order...Definite...Prof. Hsu,<BR/><BR/>Another 'I agree' is in order...<BR/><BR/>Definitely it would make much more sense to attempt to fix the k-12 system than to artificially admit kids who may or may not deserve it into college. However, the fixing of the k-12 does not seem to be in our near future as the US govt seems to have other <A HREF="http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/07/washington/07nuke.html?ex=1325826000&Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-1168228287355543742007-01-07T22:51:00.000-05:002007-01-07T22:51:00.000-05:00Rigo,I agree, what you suggest makes more sense on...Rigo,<BR/><BR/>I agree, what you suggest makes more sense on the not-so-elite campuses. But I think many of these things are relatively ineffective feel-good measures that are cheaper to implement than fixing our K-12 system.Steve Hsuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02428333897272913660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-1168226477735643912007-01-07T22:21:00.000-05:002007-01-07T22:21:00.000-05:00Prof. Hsu,Granted...I was thinking mostly about un...Prof. Hsu,<BR/><BR/>Granted...<BR/><BR/>I was thinking mostly about universities without the 'elite' part in them. I wouldn't argue that places like your alma matter need to address the social problems of k-12 education. However, I think that until reforms to K-12 education quality like the one you suggest come about and have an effect admissions committees at state schools have some Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-1168225805334267722007-01-07T22:10:00.000-05:002007-01-07T22:10:00.000-05:00Rigo,I would vote for (and pay my share of the tax...Rigo,<BR/><BR/>I would vote for (and pay my share of the taxes for) a law that required Federal funding to raise the quality of all public K-12 schools to the same level. But it's not the job of universities to fix the K-12 problems in society. In fact, I doubt the problems arising from poor K-12 education *can* be fixed by simply admitting under-prepared students to elite universities.Steve Hsuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02428333897272913660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-1168225414179226112007-01-07T22:03:00.000-05:002007-01-07T22:03:00.000-05:00I didn't finish reading the article, but I remembe...I didn't finish reading the article, but I remember thinking that I would probably be reading about it here ;-).<BR/><BR/>I don't understand why is it that admission officials need applicants to declare their ethnic background and even know their names. It seems that the way to go would simply to be blind to race and base everything on merit.<BR/><BR/>However, something needs be done to fix the Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com