tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post9220587877472572686..comments2024-01-13T18:57:18.243-05:00Comments on Information Processing: Minds and MachinesSteve Hsuhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02428333897272913660noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-53411417550452534072014-07-19T13:41:31.299-04:002014-07-19T13:41:31.299-04:00Yesterday I found Burroughs's "A Princess...Yesterday I found Burroughs's "A Princess of Mars' in my Kindle. I read it. It was very like the movie except for how Carter learns to speak Martian. In the novella the Martian language is described as very simple. In the movie he takes a potion and wakes up in the morning completely fluent.<br />The take a 'knowledge pill' plot idea seems to be passé. It was based on the nowPat Boylenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-58379390999841306282014-07-15T00:11:10.616-04:002014-07-15T00:11:10.616-04:00It does not count as AI. It counts as bullshitting...It does not count as AI. It counts as bullshitting.DKnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-43633987087251314712014-07-14T20:45:48.434-04:002014-07-14T20:45:48.434-04:00Agreed about C. elegans. It seems about the right...Agreed about C. elegans. It seems about the right size to me for a proof of concept. Large enough to be interesting, small enough to be possible to simulate. It will be interesting to see what is accomplished in this area. It's just that there is so much complexity to model. Supposedly C. elegans shows some of the same responses to nicotine as mammals do. How to model that?!<br /><br />Richard Seiternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-4286083030507425882014-07-14T17:43:11.826-04:002014-07-14T17:43:11.826-04:00I hope this happens. No more schools, no more test...I hope this happens. No more schools, no more tests. No more fathers, mothers, children, friends. No more nuthin.<br />Just pure energy.Haciendanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-38324778855871629092014-07-14T17:19:54.389-04:002014-07-14T17:19:54.389-04:00These people may know computers, but they don'...These people may know computers, but they don't know about quantifying natural intelligence. Measured on a ratio scale (equal-interval with zero) using Rasch measures, human intelligence varies only by about 15% between an IQ 100 and an IQ 160 adult. The 160 IQ adult is also only about 36% smarter than the average 2.25 year-old.<br /><br />Getting to the intelligence of a small child is the MUltannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-88595853969116722142014-07-14T16:16:00.261-04:002014-07-14T16:16:00.261-04:00I think this is very promising. I believe C. elega...I think this is very promising. I believe C. elegans has one of the simplest neural networks, maybe the simplest, so its analysis is doable. But note that it hasn't actually been done. They're starting but they don't know how the network works, except that they can break parts of it and stop some behavior.<br /><br />In higher organisms (and perhaps C. elegans) we don't know how BobSykesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-4726095682494365122014-07-14T14:40:32.722-04:002014-07-14T14:40:32.722-04:00With experts like Negroponte making silly statemen...With experts like Negroponte making silly statements like this, which are at the level of a badly written pulp sci-fi story of the 1930's, it really brings into question the validity of a poll primarily consisting of his colleagues in his field (Ray Kurzweil being one of them; a wet analogue parallel data processing entity that thinks he will live forever by taking enough vitamin pills.) In James Hedmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-54598882811261743592014-07-14T13:56:56.887-04:002014-07-14T13:56:56.887-04:00With experts like Negroponte making silly statemen...With experts like Negroponte making silly statements like this, which are at the level of a badly written pulp sci-fi story of the 1930's, it really brings into question the validity of a poll primarily consisting of his colleagues in his field (Ray Kurzweil being one of them; a wet analogue parallel data processing entity that thinks he will live forever by taking enough vitamin pills.) In James Hedmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-87341423988829562832014-07-14T06:49:12.396-04:002014-07-14T06:49:12.396-04:00Good point. Right now we can't even simulate a...Good point. Right now we can't even simulate an E. coli cell.BobSykesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-81794660598473882472014-07-14T05:06:43.887-04:002014-07-14T05:06:43.887-04:00Is this counted as AI? Nigroponte predicts Knowled...Is this counted as AI? Nigroponte predicts Knowledge acquisition without human effort by simply popping a pill.<br /><br />http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/10/learn-language-pill-drugs-video_n_5574748.html?utm_hp_ref=world&ir=World<br /><i><br />"We have been doing a lot of consuming of information through our <br />eyes. That may be a very inefficient channel. My prediction is thatdxie48noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-44057548009314478222014-07-14T04:03:44.947-04:002014-07-14T04:03:44.947-04:00steve's still gettin' gay with kids.steve's still gettin' gay with kids.steve is chinesenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-68876227951803169382014-07-13T16:10:07.391-04:002014-07-13T16:10:07.391-04:00Sorry for unrelated comment but are you using GCTA...Sorry for unrelated comment but are you using GCTA or some new method for your genius genome project?Bibibibibib Blubbnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-6041980555496692562014-07-13T16:09:11.513-04:002014-07-13T16:09:11.513-04:00haha, can't help but notice that all three are...haha, can't help but notice that all three are unintellectual, more dependent on "skill" than smarts, and very people-oriented.redddinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-50107464707429601822014-07-13T13:18:51.802-04:002014-07-13T13:18:51.802-04:00I don't have an exhaustive list, but MMA fight...I don't have an exhaustive list, but MMA fighter, Gigolo, and Call Girl must be near the top :-)steve hsuhttp://duende.uoregon.edu/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-70952144565864685262014-07-13T13:15:55.405-04:002014-07-13T13:15:55.405-04:00Count me among the most extreme skeptics of artifi...<i>Count me among the most extreme skeptics of artificial intelligence and the Singularity</i><br /><br />Add me too. The fact is, life/organic matter can organize and function in the ways that are fundamentally different from anything that we know as electronics/machines. As a result, the most simple single cell is behaviorally infinitely more complex than the biggest supercomputer anyone can DKnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-7900846340800886552014-07-13T00:13:30.369-04:002014-07-13T00:13:30.369-04:00Steve, tell us your list of most HLMI resistant pr...Steve, tell us your list of most HLMI resistant professions.redddinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-11822848203010087982014-07-12T12:45:03.152-04:002014-07-12T12:45:03.152-04:00This poll carries as much conviction as a survey o...This poll carries as much conviction as a survey of theologians to find out when they think the apocalypse will happen - or less.5371noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-44531782200551978682014-07-12T07:28:00.248-04:002014-07-12T07:28:00.248-04:00Count me among the most extreme skeptics of artifi...Count me among the most extreme skeptics of artificial intelligence and the Singularity. If you are a materialist ( a hypothesis), then the mere existence of human and animal minds proves that artificial intelligence is possible. However, Hubert Dreyfus' critique of artificial intelligence ("What Computers Still Can't Do"), while dated, is still relevant as it comes from a BobSykesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-45665641848189682602014-07-11T18:37:03.590-04:002014-07-11T18:37:03.590-04:00My personal benchmark is - when instead of checkin...My personal benchmark is - when instead of checking the calendar in your smart phone for schedule conflicts to see if you can attend an event, you ask your phone for permission.<br />I won't live long enough to see that day, but then I have a lot of fatal diseases. You certainly will.Pat Boylenoreply@blogger.com