tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post6524606624559963024..comments2024-01-13T18:57:18.243-05:00Comments on Information Processing: Climategate and the American Physical SocietySteve Hsuhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02428333897272913660noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-10591299691255854882011-12-21T02:40:14.517-05:002011-12-21T02:40:14.517-05:00I don't dare to open such emails, most of whic...I don't dare to open such emails, most of which are viruses.privacy protection virushttp://virusremovalhelps.com/help-privacy-protection-malware-removal/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-26913420184575068312009-12-11T15:21:32.760-05:002009-12-11T15:21:32.760-05:00Eric:
Let me try again. Much of this APS campaig...Eric:<br /><br />Let me try again. Much of this APS campaign doesn't seem like a real effort to change APS's position, but to generate publicity to confuse the general public, amny of whom will remember <br />"But didn't some serious physicists disagree?" and not take the time to go back and check.<br /><br />Here is a useful experiment:<br />a) Google:<br />By now John Masheyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17786354229618237133noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-64108313371029385472009-12-10T03:36:10.711-05:002009-12-10T03:36:10.711-05:00I'm sure that by now most people know this let...I'm sure that by now most people know this letter is a fake. The APS home page (<a href="http://www.aps.org/" rel="nofollow">www.aps.org</a>) says, "Please be assured that these were not official APS messages, nor were they sent with APS knowledge or approval".Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00070607543172968399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-89030100396481557572009-12-07T18:39:57.438-05:002009-12-07T18:39:57.438-05:001) I don't think it was sent to all APS member...1) I don't think it was sent to all APS members. I didn't get one (but of course, that is no surprise).<br /><br />2) The originators certainly have mailing lists from the Petition effort, and it would be amazing if they didn't send to them.<br /><br />3) Any APS member can rummage in the Directory and find some names, because certainly some people got it that were not on the John Masheyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17786354229618237133noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-7340322181084292632009-12-07T13:45:48.028-05:002009-12-07T13:45:48.028-05:00When I was in graduate school, the (physics) depar...When I was in graduate school, the (physics) department regularly got self-published tracts by cranks claiming that conventional wisdom regarding thermodynamics, or quantum theory, or some such was all wrong and that their discoveries would revolutionize our understanding of physics.<br /><br />Ever since (but, I understand not directly as a result of) the events surrounding the murder of Eileen Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07302954837149438189noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-62207098034372925942009-12-05T18:09:07.672-05:002009-12-05T18:09:07.672-05:00Thanks.Thanks.John Masheyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17786354229618237133noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-58212404605805457352009-12-05T13:17:42.185-05:002009-12-05T13:17:42.185-05:00Oops, one more thing: Prof Hsu: can you edit your ...Oops, one more thing: Prof Hsu: can you edit your post here to make Callan's email address less visible to harvesters? He's done nothing to deserve a big increase in spam.John Masheyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17786354229618237133noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-47892643980648310992009-12-05T11:53:21.177-05:002009-12-05T11:53:21.177-05:00There is way more history to this particular effor...There is way more history to this particular effort , which is part of an organized anti-science campaign.<br /><a href="http://www.desmogblog.com/another-silly-climate-petition-exposed" rel="nofollow">Science Bypass - Anti-science Petition to APS from folks with SEPP, George C. Marshall Insitute, Heartland, CATO</a>.<br />Read the 3-page Executive Summary at least.<br /><br />Basically, they John Masheyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17786354229618237133noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-79523340761844376452009-12-05T10:13:48.129-05:002009-12-05T10:13:48.129-05:00Lindzen and Happer? Seriously? Cranks reveling ...Lindzen and Happer? Seriously? Cranks reveling in their own iconoclasm. <br /><br />Just because a piece of a puzzle is bent (if it is bent) does not change the big picture.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12649618509379437810noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-2969675727305590542009-12-05T07:40:12.698-05:002009-12-05T07:40:12.698-05:00I also haven't invested the effort to have wha...I also haven't invested the effort to have what you'd call a "strong opinion", though I do indeed have a strong *presumption* that the scientific consensus on any issue -- including this one -- is the most likely to be closest to reality. <br /><br />But this particular letter has clearly false statement in it, that the emails display "an international scientific fraud&Alexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14842606772715763388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-6991085240953341212009-12-04T21:47:04.028-05:002009-12-04T21:47:04.028-05:00Nature Editorial — Climatologists under pressure
[...<em>Nature</em> Editorial — <a href="http://dx.doi.org/10.1038/462545a" rel="nofollow">Climatologists under pressure</a><br />[doi:10.1038/462545a; Published online 2 December 2009]CWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15671404306768077552noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-27422599549245404782009-12-04T19:16:42.205-05:002009-12-04T19:16:42.205-05:00For a fascinating inside look at how climate scien...For a fascinating inside look at how climate scientists frankly discuss the uncertainties inherent in their field among themselves, here is an interesting workshop (sponsored by National Academy of Sciences?)from several years back:<br /><br />http://books.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=10787&page=2<br /><br />Nothing scandalous, but also not very re-assuring.Luke Leahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11290760894780619646noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-44900979136418171772009-12-04T19:06:39.060-05:002009-12-04T19:06:39.060-05:00I don't want to get off topic, but I have to a...I don't want to get off topic, but I have to agree with Martin's implication that "something is missing" in our fight against rising CO2 levels in the atmosphere. The case for AGW seems so much more attractive to "some" when it means religious-like sacrifices to our standard of living than when it means dealing with horrible problems like coal fires. <br /><br />If LondonYounghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09677529514013996419noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-59637880211047592522009-12-04T18:44:07.273-05:002009-12-04T18:44:07.273-05:00I would like to second STS's comment. A lot of...I would like to second STS's comment. A lot of people have done a lot of hard work investigating various aspects of this question—in particular, a lot of hard <em>empirical</em> work in alpine regions and at the poles. If the skeptics are honest they will be bending over backwards to recognize and acknowledge the sound work that is out there, whether or not it supports their general stance.<CWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15671404306768077552noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-35667263324465934302009-12-04T17:56:24.183-05:002009-12-04T17:56:24.183-05:00You know there's been a coal fire burning in C...You know there's been a coal fire burning in Centralia Pennsylvania since 1956?<br /><br />I read the emissions of coal fires burning just in China equals the annual output of all American vehicles, and the coal firs in India are bigger.<br /><br />Can we all at least agree that we should extinguish these fires. It's wasting coal if nothing else.<br /><br />And if that's costs Martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01231830109819649947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-32431055829333602792009-12-04T17:51:28.285-05:002009-12-04T17:51:28.285-05:00The skeptics are parnoid.
Oswald really did act ...The skeptics are parnoid. <br /><br />Oswald really did act alone.Ian Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06837467954881003505noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-50884125513351132722009-12-04T17:24:09.304-05:002009-12-04T17:24:09.304-05:00Citing Richard Lindzen's account of the story ...Citing Richard Lindzen's account of the story is a bit of a 'tell' here, given his prominence as a climate change skeptic. The author of this letter is clearly looking to magnify the impact of the stolen emails from an embarrassment for East Anglia into a major reconsideration of AGW.<br /><br />You are increasingly part of the jury, and I hope you will consider investing some real Sethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16486234948199900568noreply@blogger.com