tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post5343030903501694268..comments2024-01-13T18:57:18.243-05:00Comments on Information Processing: Supply, Demand and ScientistsSteve Hsuhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02428333897272913660noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-88228852644355556422010-06-28T04:29:09.353-04:002010-06-28T04:29:09.353-04:00E.E. - I believe in democracy, just one bit of cau...E.E. - I believe in democracy, just one bit of caution:<br /><br />"Heat not a furnace for thy foe so hot that it do singe thyself."LondonYoungnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-38947659123154765372010-06-27T21:35:05.923-04:002010-06-27T21:35:05.923-04:00"Nameless - I agree with everything you say.&..."Nameless - I agree with everything you say."<br /><br />Of course you do. You're a money man. <br /><br />And of course *you* deserve everything you have unlike scum like Joe. It'll be nice to see you and your ilk cut down to size. For your sake I hope the cutting is sooner rather than later. The more blood you guys are allowed to suck away, the greater will be the rage againstEurope Endlessnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-4921130957120468662010-06-27T06:34:29.003-04:002010-06-27T06:34:29.003-04:00Nameless - I agree with everything you say.
I woul...Nameless - I agree with everything you say.<br />I would add only one point. As Namesless2 implies, Joe from Flint, Michigan is not gonna be happy short term. When GM cuts his pension benefits, and his kid loses out on a bid for a third postdoc to a Chinese immigrant, Joe will sit back in his 5000 sq ft home, with three S.U.V.'s in the driveway, and get angry as the injustice of it all. LondonYoungnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-52441267434895719812010-06-24T20:33:36.705-04:002010-06-24T20:33:36.705-04:00"Our society does not want or need for you to..."Our society does not want or need for you to become a scientist."<br /><br />Bullshit. A small minority of people who have a disproportionate amount of power and who benefit from cheap labor want this in order to enrich themselves. This is why things are as they are.<br /><br />"What you're saying is that you want to structure the society to let homegrown people do whatever Nameless2noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-15793178716455626912010-06-24T18:45:45.932-04:002010-06-24T18:45:45.932-04:00One last thought.
There are many people in this c...One last thought.<br /><br />There are many people in this country who routinely practice and enjoy tailoring and gardening. For them, those are hobbies, things that they like to do even though they have no illusions about ever making money out of it. <br /><br />Maybe science should become more of a hobby too, financed out of a paycheck from a "real" job. That will encourage people to Namelessnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-23207695730984030742010-06-24T17:55:37.772-04:002010-06-24T17:55:37.772-04:00"You want to nurture homegrown talent to give..."You want to nurture homegrown talent to give opportunity to homegrown people. Otherwise, the homegrown people will become angry, get nasty, and create strife. As well they should. "<br /><br />What you're saying is that you want to structure the society to let homegrown people do whatever they want, and to make sure that they are well compensated for it. If someone wants to be a Namelessnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-45140903867553945552010-06-24T09:21:58.723-04:002010-06-24T09:21:58.723-04:00"I am not sure why we need homegrown talent f..."I am not sure why we need homegrown talent for domestic innovation---if we can hold onto the talents from abroad."<br /><br />This statement exemplifies one of the problems with the econocentric neoliberal-globalist outlook when it comes to national entities. When it comes to "the good of the country", you act like some corporate manager talking about resource units to be Nameless2noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-72945267411766552342010-06-24T01:52:56.854-04:002010-06-24T01:52:56.854-04:00Hear, hear.
However, as other commenters have m...Hear, hear. <br /><br />However, as other commenters have mentioned, this may be the most efficient way of spending our limited research dollars. <br /><br />"The second point of agreement is that, unless the underlying problem is fixed, it will seriously impair the nation’s ability to recruit top-flight homegrown talent — both for domestic innovation and for the high-level, classified, Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-68174018052669216782010-06-23T21:21:43.605-04:002010-06-23T21:21:43.605-04:001. You didn't answer my question.
2. Distribut...1. You didn't answer my question.<br />2. Distribution among people does not factor in. Weird way to define beneficial.<br />3 and 4. Implicit in this statement is "all things being equal" and the statement itself presents a false dichotomy. The answer would then be: "of course not". But all things are not equal and it's not so black or white.<br /><br />"Of Nameless2noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-67053634136100217352010-06-23T15:35:19.317-04:002010-06-23T15:35:19.317-04:001. Just because some people choose to forget macro...1. Just because some people choose to forget macro 101, does not mean that it no longer exists or that it has zero predictive capability.<br />2. Cumulative value of all products and services produced in the world.<br />3 and 4. Would you prefer to live in a world where the USA is shielded from destructive wage influence of BRIC, so that you can wear $500 "made in the USA" jeans and Namelessnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-4096396482672280592010-06-23T11:11:48.742-04:002010-06-23T11:11:48.742-04:00"It is difficult to say whether (a) is benefi..."It is difficult to say whether (a) is beneficial for the economy of the world as a whole, but basic economics tells us that (b) is definitely not."<br /><br />1. Since 'basic economics' has become nothing but a promoter of the interests of capital and has zero predictive capability, why should most of us care what it has to say? <br />2. Please explain the term 'economy of Nameless2noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-54423311233156828952010-06-23T05:49:19.515-04:002010-06-23T05:49:19.515-04:00To expound on that thought.
It is perfectly natur...To expound on that thought.<br /><br />It is perfectly natural for some domestic workers to lose their well-paid jobs doing X and to become unwilling to do X at market rates when their markets are open for competition with low-income countries.<br /><br />For example, some domestic tailors are going to lose their $20/hr jobs if they have to compete with foreign tailors who make $2/hr, unless theyNamelessnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-1164379082205187712010-06-23T05:20:28.869-04:002010-06-23T05:20:28.869-04:00I agree with the premise, not with the conclusion....I agree with the premise, not with the conclusion.<br /><br />This is free market at work.<br /><br />There's limited amount of money available to do science (primarily because a lot of this science is financed with taxpayers' money, with zero return on investment), and there are three billion people in BRIC countries from which to draw the talent pool. <br /><br />Therefore, you maximizeNamelessnoreply@blogger.com