tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post4105710249792034804..comments2024-01-13T18:57:18.243-05:00Comments on Information Processing: Asian-Americans in the Ivy League: A Portrait of Privilege and DiscriminationSteve Hsuhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02428333897272913660noreply@blogger.comBlogger34125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-14412316051236304812010-09-03T14:11:02.437-04:002010-09-03T14:11:02.437-04:00Updated version of "National Brotherhood Week...Updated version of "National Brotherhood Week":<br /><br />http://www.last.fm/music/Tom+Lehrer/+videos/+1-a62ZCRQ-kxY<br /><br />"Oh the Catholics, hate the atheists,<br />The Hindus, hate the Muslims,<br />The Muslims hate everyone,<br />And everyone hates the French."Melykinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-46074013053409637702010-09-03T13:49:14.517-04:002010-09-03T13:49:14.517-04:00Ken wrote: "Racism (or more accurately tribal...Ken wrote: "Racism (or more accurately tribalism) is an unfortunate part of human nature.... All tribes display it."<br />========================================================================<br /><br />Truer words were never spoken. It is part of human nature. In the west it is not polite (or even legal) to talk about, but it is there. The rest of the world doesn't even pretendMelykinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-14178093660065406382010-09-01T20:39:46.268-04:002010-09-01T20:39:46.268-04:00Perhaps Yan Shen: But you of all people should als...Perhaps Yan Shen: But you of all people should also be aware of Asian racism which is alive and well. Racism (or more accurately tribalism) is an unfortunate part of human nature. Many Chinese despise the Japanese for their historical aggression (the rape of Nanjing comes to mind) and there is no love lost between Koreans and the Japanese. The Japanese using the former as sex and other slaves andKennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-83584552488192563452010-08-31T04:14:10.018-04:002010-08-31T04:14:10.018-04:00Yesterday, I loved a Czech tweet by a former almos...Yesterday, I loved a Czech tweet by a former almost-classmate of mine. It was said in a very formal language so it sounded even more funny in Czech. But it said: The American scientists have figured out that one half of them are Chinese scientists. ;-)Luboš Motlhttp://www.facebook.com/lubos.motlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-15279646703081581832010-08-25T07:52:33.409-04:002010-08-25T07:52:33.409-04:00"For someone who despises the concept of IQ a..."For someone who despises the concept of IQ and the possibility that there could be group differences in intelligence..."<br /><br />I never said there weren't group differences in intelligence. What gave you that silly idea? At a moments notice I could form two groups from my workplace or neighborhood where one group has a lower intelligence on average than the other. Intelligence paulyarblesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-48946651240200996932010-08-23T15:54:21.261-04:002010-08-23T15:54:21.261-04:00Of course he has no references. He's just a St...Of course he has no references. He's just a Steve Sailerite looking to vent because the country is slowly losing its non-Hispanic white majority.Yan Shennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-78092033733218475182010-08-22T21:30:04.548-04:002010-08-22T21:30:04.548-04:00Just one easily discovered link from google, found...Just one easily discovered link from google, found on the very first search, amongst many others. Much or what you will find is encoded in the bureaucratic squid ink of jargon and legalese, but all of it is created by and for those whose benefit from the system in one way or another. <br /><br />http://www.nedainc.net/Federal%20Contracting%20Reforms%20Info.htm<br /><br />Hard data is difficult Cjnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-24454841749474897682010-08-22T17:25:50.014-04:002010-08-22T17:25:50.014-04:00I'm against all forms of racial discrimination...I'm against all forms of racial discrimination. The favoritism to minority (specifically Asian American) contracting that you mention is something I have heard of but know very little about. While I personally know people who have been affected by the admissions policies I've written about, I don't actually know anyone who benefits from the set-asides you refer to. Can you provide steve hsuhttp://duende.uoregon.edu/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-43750980949210225222010-08-22T17:06:36.410-04:002010-08-22T17:06:36.410-04:00Dear Professor Hsu,
Despite the tone and topic o...Dear Professor Hsu, <br /><br />Despite the tone and topic of this comment, I'm a great admirer or your writings. However, I do have a very major complaint that I hope to draw your attention to. I was wondering how you would describe the concern expressed over the years on your blog to the negative or perceived negative effect of official discrimination, (ie "affirmative action")Cjnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-28076188984809524402010-08-19T16:51:17.603-04:002010-08-19T16:51:17.603-04:00***And Shawn, since Steve Sailer has been ignoring...***And Shawn, since Steve Sailer has been ignoring my comments on here, even though I know he reads this blog, maybe you can answer something for me. Why are all of the HBD blogs written by white bloggers inundated with r*cial slurs against minority groups, and why do most of the commenters there seem so incredibly dim? ***<br /><br />I think HBD blogs tend to attract people who are unusually Bottinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-57380217925877623352010-08-19T15:55:26.349-04:002010-08-19T15:55:26.349-04:00Shawn, you seemed to have ignored basically all of...Shawn, you seemed to have ignored basically all of the main points of my previous post. :) Since you're a big boy, I assume you can read English, your own native language.<br /><br />The number of Asians living in the West is fairly small relative to their numbers in Asia. Also, the number of Westerners living in Asia is larger than you're probably aware of. As I've stated, I expect Yan Shennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-76157330584342589842010-08-19T15:28:08.455-04:002010-08-19T15:28:08.455-04:00"Certainly foreign immigrants to China today ..."Certainly foreign immigrants to China today will never face the barbaric kind of treatment that Americans inflicted upon its foreign immigrants in past decades." <br /><br />Hmm.....makes perfect sense...this may be why so many people from Asia are clamoring to get into the USA, and other Western countries for that matter. By the way, I like and respect Asians. I just think diversity Shawnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-7565771542427923422010-08-19T15:04:58.695-04:002010-08-19T15:04:58.695-04:00Shawn, discrimination is wrong as a matter of prin...Shawn, discrimination is wrong as a matter of principle. Whether or not you care about being discriminated against is irrelevant to the issue here. The world doesn't revolve around you or your opinions. I've heard that Japan is ethnocentric, but China is fairly tolerant of outsiders, as far as I can tell. Certainly foreign immigrants to China today will never face the barbaric kind of Yan Shennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-10203864784102646082010-08-19T14:49:20.123-04:002010-08-19T14:49:20.123-04:00Jin Dih:
I think it has to do with a collectivist...Jin Dih:<br /><br />I think it has to do with a collectivistic mindset, whether cultural, genetic, or otherwise, which hampered creativity. Anyway, China is practicing eugenics & doesn't have all the PC crap that the west has succumbed to. In a couple generations they will surmount the world unless other nations follow suit.Samnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-11827774067422205942010-08-19T14:43:11.083-04:002010-08-19T14:43:11.083-04:00Yan Shen -
As a White male, if I were to move to ...Yan Shen -<br /><br />As a White male, if I were to move to China or Japan to do business, would I face discrimination? And if so, would this be just cause to revamp the culture? That was a hypothetical. They would have every right to discriminate against me. I don't care; I would just pack up and go back to my homeland: the good ol' USA.<br /><br />An aside on something else: I've Shawnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-48402216084158091212010-08-19T14:32:49.326-04:002010-08-19T14:32:49.326-04:00"What Asian-Americans are enduring now is rem..."What Asian-Americans are enduring now is reminiscent of the travails of American Jews in the 1930s and 1940s..."<br /><br />Exactly. <br /><br />There is an Asian quota AND a White quota at universities. I will point out that Jews are favored over Gentile Whites when it comes to filling the White quota. Wealthy Whites are favored over poorer Whites (for endowment reasons understandablyShawnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-80276258061754465902010-08-19T14:25:53.466-04:002010-08-19T14:25:53.466-04:00Indian-Americans' ancestors typically held muc...Indian-Americans' ancestors typically held much higher status before they went to the US than those of NE Asians did ...anonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-115518885540907442010-08-19T00:26:35.985-04:002010-08-19T00:26:35.985-04:00***Speaking of Tim Wise, I just had an exchange wi...***Speaking of Tim Wise, I just had an exchange with him on his official website the past couple of days over the merits of affirmative action. He's a nice guy and his heart is in the right place, but ultimately his arguments leave a lot to be desired. ***<br /><br />Yan Shen, (for some reason I can't use the reply function)<br /><br />Excellent effort debating Tim & his acolyte Bottinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-66541194303252041202010-08-18T23:57:08.947-04:002010-08-18T23:57:08.947-04:00Unfair discrimination in access to higher educatio...Unfair discrimination in access to higher education in America? I'm shocked! Shocked!!Nimnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-20673630892764874032010-08-18T23:10:28.426-04:002010-08-18T23:10:28.426-04:00The advantage in the visuo-spatial factor yet Chin...The advantage in the visuo-spatial factor yet China has ALWAYS been behind the West. There was no Chinese Aristotle. Science is European.<br /><br />I remember NE Asians always lost on Jeopardy. There are no great NE Asian lawyers. I'm sure Steve explains this as environmental.<br /><br />The trivial IQ advantage (all of it in the visuo-spatial factor) found in adoption studies is too small Jin Dihhttp://profiles.yahoo.com/u/TFQ4SZEC7IEMA2PXTDSXILSFQEnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-87183186530932513422010-08-18T22:28:53.616-04:002010-08-18T22:28:53.616-04:00Speaking of Tim Wise, I just had an exchange with ...Speaking of Tim Wise, I just had an exchange with him on his official website the past couple of days over the merits of affirmative action. He's a nice guy and his heart is in the right place, but ultimately his arguments leave a lot to be desired. Basically, from his point of view, white racism is the cause of all of society's maladies. Of course, that explanation doesn't account Yan Shennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-5149981180439375592010-08-18T22:05:18.043-04:002010-08-18T22:05:18.043-04:00***People generally look for any way possible to d...***People generally look for any way possible to discredit the accomplishments of Asian Americans. ***<br /><br />Yan Shen,<br /><br />Hey, at least you don't have people like Tim Wise bleating about Asian privilege :-) <br /><br />As for double standards, I think people are more wary of negative comments about protected groups. It looks like poor form where the group is struggling (and many Bottinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-73612700697278601742010-08-18T21:48:36.470-04:002010-08-18T21:48:36.470-04:00I was under the impression that most people in soc...I was under the impression that most people in society viewed high IQ as a negative rather than a positive trait. Just think back to your high school days, when the smart kids were viewed as uncool geeks and the dumb jocks were universally adored. ;) It's highly likely that most of society doesn't share your implicit viewpoint that higher IQ somehow equates to being superior.Yan Shennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-13601759807019712842010-08-18T21:20:24.342-04:002010-08-18T21:20:24.342-04:00Absolutely true. There's a long history of th...Absolutely true. There's a long history of this, with different ethnic groups playing similar roles. Some of the best summaries are Louis Menand's reviews of books by Bowen with various coauthors. One of the most curious is the emphasis on sports even at elite schools. It's only partly a joke to suggest that this may flip when more Asians play football and basketball. <br /><br /David Backusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-39589355062054679762010-08-18T21:16:32.617-04:002010-08-18T21:16:32.617-04:00Do the adoption studies sing sweet songs about the...Do the adoption studies sing sweet songs about the master race in your ears, Steve?<br /><br />Really, what do they "say" to you? Or should I ask what do they present for your interpretation? Seriously, provide a link. I am IQurious. <br /><br />And what is this wonderful integer called IQ anyway? Image all that is worthy and good in the human mind can be distilled through the science (Paul Yarblesnoreply@blogger.com