tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post1832927792943527234..comments2024-01-13T18:57:18.243-05:00Comments on Information Processing: DuneSteve Hsuhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02428333897272913660noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-66350543642115364212011-10-01T13:21:06.115-04:002011-10-01T13:21:06.115-04:00The books written by Frank’s son are indeed crappy...The books written by Frank’s son are indeed crappy (and I don’t think it’s just the contrast with the originals), but allegedly they are based on FH’s notes for future books.<br /><br />I haven’t read them all, but their main revealings about the Dune world is that (1) some AIs escaped the Butlerian Jihad, ran far away, and then start interfering again later, and (2) an ancient human brain calledBogdan Butnarunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-40660758750750146282011-09-15T11:52:16.489-04:002011-09-15T11:52:16.489-04:00Nice that you were moved by the Silmarillion, it&#...Nice that you were moved by the Silmarillion, it's not to everyones taste. <br /><br />But for the sake of your own love of Dune, I suggest that you avoid the sequels. They approach making the original book less good with their sheer sucktitude, I regret having read some of them.*Hmmmm, you seem to have a taste for big stories. I'd recommend Iain M. Banks' "Culture" series; LaurentMelchiorTelliernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-68696121303007517662011-09-05T13:01:34.213-04:002011-09-05T13:01:34.213-04:00Ever tried E. R. Eddison?Ever tried E. R. Eddison?5371noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-44292033501182151422011-09-05T11:33:55.088-04:002011-09-05T11:33:55.088-04:00the sequels kept sucking more and more with each o...the sequels kept sucking more and more with each one.Razib Khanhttp://twitter.com/razibkhannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-24161302061834757902011-09-05T00:33:10.564-04:002011-09-05T00:33:10.564-04:00As a kid I preferred LOTR to the Silmarillion, but...As a kid I preferred LOTR to the Silmarillion, but I read the latter again as an adult and now find it a much deeper and more powerful work -- as if Tolkien had single handedly written the Bible or equivalent creation myth for his own universe. I read the Silmarillion again because I was staying at a university guest house in Tokyo for an entire summer and there was very little in their English steve hsuhttp://duende.uoregon.edu/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-59804121257265719752011-09-05T00:24:30.833-04:002011-09-05T00:24:30.833-04:00Tolkien wrote the back story for LOTR in the 1910&...Tolkien wrote the back story for LOTR in the 1910's, but LOTR wasn't written until the 30's and 40's. This is what sets Tolkien apart from so many other fiction writers. Even Sherlock Holmes' backstory was subject to constant change ... LondonYoungnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-32967032850089365272011-09-05T00:19:37.020-04:002011-09-05T00:19:37.020-04:00The Analog version of the story appeared in 1963. ...The Analog version of the story appeared in 1963. I think it is shorter than the book version, though it spans several issues of Analog. Every now and then I have desired a complete set for my personal library though, like you, I have not had time for scifi in the last couple decades. Maybe when we are almost senile 40 years from now ...LondonYoungnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-69386030234271378232011-09-05T00:14:30.145-04:002011-09-05T00:14:30.145-04:00It depends on whose voice this is written in. If ...It depends on whose voice this is written in. If the author's, maybe Herbert wanted to set up for a sequel but took it in another direction instead. I prefer thinking that it's just be some third party marvelling at how the Bene Gesserit screwed up: some combination of the fact that the Bene Gesserit didn't realize exactly what they had created, and that they weren't as Innominatus Subrosanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-91405841575213573842011-09-04T21:51:21.935-04:002011-09-04T21:51:21.935-04:00I've only read the canonical six Frank Herbert...I've only read the canonical six Frank Herbert Dune books (and none of the subsequent abortions by his son).<br /><br />No, later books don't go into any higher plan, especially at the time of Dune. From the reign of Leto II onwards the BG were certainly manipulated by him, though.SamMurphynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-62221417833636487042011-09-04T21:46:59.534-04:002011-09-04T21:46:59.534-04:00I'm pretty sure these appendices were there in...I'm pretty sure these appendices were there in the 1970s edition that I read. The book appeared in 1965.steve hsuhttp://duende.uoregon.edu/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-78510637068852373742011-09-04T21:42:55.734-04:002011-09-04T21:42:55.734-04:00I only read the original version in the Analog mag...I only read the original version in the Analog magazines in the Ruddock library. It seems that these extra details are creations afterwards. This is in contrast to Tolkien's works where the "larger plan" was created before the popular story.LondonYoungnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-66476488196881369642011-09-04T21:33:09.206-04:002011-09-04T21:33:09.206-04:00http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070948/quotes
Arthur...http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070948/quotes<br /><br />Arthur Frayn: You see, our death-wish was devious, and deep. As Zardoz, Zed, I was able to choose your forefathers! It was careful genetic breeding that produced this mutant - this slave who could free his masters! And Friend was my accomplice! Don't you remember the man in the library, Zed? [a chime is heard] Arthur Frayn: It was I who gubbishnoreply@blogger.com