tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post112900682901217852..comments2024-01-13T18:57:18.243-05:00Comments on Information Processing: Message in the SkySteve Hsuhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02428333897272913660noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-62321353628097427682007-08-11T08:35:00.000-04:002007-08-11T08:35:00.000-04:00Hi Steve, there is, maybe, something that would ma...Hi Steve, there is, maybe, something that would make Greg Egan<BR/>happy; it's in "Permutation City". Could the hypothetic message also be in the flesh?<BR/>S.C.T.<BR/><BR/>http://arxiv.org/pdf/0707.2011Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-1131418065600696102005-11-07T21:47:00.000-05:002005-11-07T21:47:00.000-05:00Maybe Futurama was onto something when they had th...Maybe Futurama was onto something when they had the Universe In A Box!<BR/><BR/>"Hey! That galaxy's signalling to me in binary! But I only know enough binary to ask where the bathroom is..."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-1131175230487107692005-11-05T02:20:00.000-05:002005-11-05T02:20:00.000-05:00Steve: If you were the "physicist hacker" what mes...Steve: If you were the "physicist hacker" what message would you send?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-1129305565374298982005-10-14T11:59:00.000-04:002005-10-14T11:59:00.000-04:00It's not obvious to me that mathematics must be th...It's not obvious to me that mathematics must be the same everywhere :-)<BR/><BR/>Our proposal allows a Being ("physicist hacker" a la Linde) to have sent the message, who is far from omnipotent - he doesn't interfere other than setting up the Lagrangian and initial conditions.Steve Hsuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02428333897272913660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-1129300721111298892005-10-14T10:38:00.000-04:002005-10-14T10:38:00.000-04:00"I think Greg Egan discussed this, maybe in "Permu..."I think Greg Egan discussed this, maybe in "Permutation City"."<BR/><BR/>I don't know about that, but a message in PI along those lines did appear in Carl Sagan's <I>Contact</I>. The aliens dropped a hint, the main scientist chick went looking for the message after the folks back home refused to believe she went anywhere, and right at the end, there was the image of a circle drawn in ones and Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-1129299138773169352005-10-14T10:12:00.000-04:002005-10-14T10:12:00.000-04:00Steve,pretty soon you will shift to the intelligen...Steve,<BR/><BR/>pretty soon you will shift to the intelligent design crowd :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-1129226771435141522005-10-13T14:06:00.000-04:002005-10-13T14:06:00.000-04:00Unfortunately I screwed up the joke:I meant to wri...Unfortunately I screwed up the joke:<BR/>I meant to write uni-verse.Wolfganghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07086991199438418163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-1129226606536637022005-10-13T14:03:00.000-04:002005-10-13T14:03:00.000-04:00Marshall McLuhan thought that "The Medium is the M...Marshall McLuhan thought that "The Medium is the Message". Apparently he was right, but did not consider the CMB as the important medium 8-)<BR/>And I always thought the unisverse is the message ...Wolfganghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07086991199438418163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-1129224293121378502005-10-13T13:24:00.000-04:002005-10-13T13:24:00.000-04:00Sorry, Steve, but Paleolithic humans beat you to i...Sorry, Steve, but Paleolithic humans beat you to it. They found that God encoded messages at the beginning of the universe, in the star constellations. Here is the message they found, as read by one of them: “grunt , gaa, puhh, puhh, peepee, garr” The Ancient Greeks and Romans, having better mathematical tools than Paleo man, were able to improve on his findings. They read: “doggie, quack, horsieAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-1129213992878061812005-10-13T10:33:00.000-04:002005-10-13T10:33:00.000-04:00A *really* clever Creator would have embedded a me...A *really* clever Creator would have embedded a message in the digits (bits?) of pi or e.<BR/><BR/>I think Greg Egan discussed this, maybe in "Permutation City".<BR/><BR/>-- DB (David Brahm, not Dave Bacon, by the way)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-1129194224003621922005-10-13T05:03:00.000-04:002005-10-13T05:03:00.000-04:00I think you will be intersting with the David Deut...I think you will be intersting with the <A HREF="http://www.qubit.org/people/david/index.php?blog=20050429223130" REL="nofollow">David Deutsch</A>'s finding that "a remarkable similarity between the map of anisotropies in the microwave background radiation revealed by the WMAP satellite and a map of our own planet".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-1129183409195792942005-10-13T02:03:00.000-04:002005-10-13T02:03:00.000-04:00Actually we weren't thinking of the Templeton Foun...Actually we weren't thinking of the Templeton Foundation at all when we first discussed the idea, but later realized that they might be interested in this kind of thing.<BR/><BR/>We submitted it to astro-ph, but the moderator at arxiv.org thought it belonged in the general physics category 8-\<BR/><BR/>I maintain that this is a legitimate topic for theoretical physics - at least as much as SETI Steve Hsuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02428333897272913660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-1129180777629683652005-10-13T01:19:00.000-04:002005-10-13T01:19:00.000-04:00Let me guess: you're trying to get a grant from th...Let me guess: you're trying to get a grant from the Templeton Foundation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5880610.post-1129162864881152252005-10-12T20:21:00.000-04:002005-10-12T20:21:00.000-04:00Holy moly. Can't wait to hear the feedback on thi...Holy moly. Can't wait to hear the feedback on this one.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com