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Wednesday, July 06, 2011

Comment decorum

Please keep your comments civil and be respectful of others. Otherwise you'll be banned. I hate wasting time on this and I am losing patience.


Razib Khan said...

bring it on steve! banning ppl is fun :-)

steve hsu said...

I'm following your lead! No more mister nice guy :-)

MtMoru said...

And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

TheGuyFromEarlier said...


MtMoru said...

Steve Hsu said: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZ2QFmJ7h0A

Sean Carroll said...

Were people getting feisty in the discussion about \theta_QED?

steve hsu said...

Definitely not -- nobody cares except me! (*sobs*)

Yan Shen said...

I think the civility that Steve is alluding to also includes the ability
to discuss issues without resorting to whining, griping, and bashing
others. It was obvious from your previous comments here that you decided
you were going to find any way possible to denigrate Asian Americans
without really considering whether or not what you said made any sense.
In other words, you simply threw out every single idea you had in mind
after you had decided that you were going to engage in Asian-American
bashing. It was almost as if you thought to yourself, "Well my God, we can't let those Asian Americans revel in their academic superiority. Let me think of ways I can bash them and bring them down a few notches." Your commentary was motivated by cynical malice from the get-go.

Had you actually had some well-thought out and meaningful
points, the conversation could have taken on an entirely different tone. However, far too often, Steve's blog attracts whiny and insecure white nationalist types who flood the comments section with their negativity. I don't know how Steve feels, but it seems to me that civility is a two-way street. I'm perfectly willing and able to have a serious discussion about HBD without the whining and griping, but if someone else feels differently and decides that negativity is part and parcel of their discourse, I'm perfectly willing to fight fire with fire.

The last point I want to make is that you're one of the most obnoxiously narcissistic individuals I've ever encountered. What have you actually accomplished in life? I'm guessing probably nothing. I'm not saying that I've done much either, but at least I'm aware of my own shortcomings. On the other hand, you seem to be entirely oblivious. You go on and on and on about how you've made these amazing connections because you've had this unstructured upbringing. But all you really do is spout off vague and fuzzy rhetoric, while actually saying nothing concrete or substantive at all. In other words, you're all fluff and no substance.

Now, I think that being incredibly annoying and oblivious should also be considered a form of incivility.

TheGuyFromEarlier said...

I discussed what I considered average Asian personality types in two threads.  Two.  And when were those two threads?   Two months ago.  Anyone is free to look through my comment history and see that most of my posts have been completely unrelated to that topic.  (Because, I know people totally care about this and are dying to know the truth.)  Also, in those original threads on Asian-Americans that you're referring to, I always wrote the disclaimer along the lines of "I'm speaking of averages, and I know this is not always the case."  Similarly, I made sure to bash white nationalism at places like iSteve or HalfSigma and call a spade a spade.  I lauded the fact that Japan has produced more Nobel Prize winners in the past 10 years than century previous.  I lauded Asian American performance in science competitions.  But I also pointed out how Asians are underrepresented in arts, literature, and elsewhere.  (BTW, Steve has mentioned possible personality differences.)  
Obviously, the fact that I ever pondered the traits of Asian Americans hit a nerve with you--all the more because I'm half Asian.  

On the other hand, responding to comments I have made completely unrelated to Asians, you have
(a) called me a whiny loser with no prompt at all.  it's actually almost comical.
(b) threatened to kill me if you ever see me in person 
(c) often reverted to your "ur so dumb and ur brain is inferior" schtick
(d) edited your posts after exploding in order to make them appear less off-hinge (like this one: http://imgur.com/lpVQR).  By the by, I have more screenshots if you want them.
If you think you're going to convince anyone that has viewed both of our comments that I have been more "off" in our interactions, then you're a little out of touch.  

"The last point I want to make is that you're one of the most obnoxiously narcissistic individuals I've ever encountered. What have you actually accomplished in life? I'm not saying that I've done much either, but at least I'm aware of my own shortcomings. "

What??  Where did this come from??  Hmm, I really don't know if I should respond to this.  

Well, let's see.  I'm in college, and a startup I'm helping a friend with was recently been valuated at $1M by a VC, with a 200k investment for 20%.  Granted, I should point out I'm not one of the original founders (esp. since I've linked him to topics here before and so he might read this), and my equity share is only a few percent.  Nonetheless, they (original founders) are heavily recruiting me and trying to get me to drop out of school.   So I'm still green, but I've got time.  You asked.  I answered.

Finally, I really hate to play the "I have a black friend" card, but I have Asian friends--way more than the average person.  In fact, something like half my family is Asian!  I know, I know: unbelievable.  But  it's true!  My roommate--he too, is Asian!  I have discussed this topic (personality differences) with two of these Asian friends, and you know what's remarkable, at least one of them said she's wondered the same thing!  

So let's make a deal.  I won't bother you; you won't bother me.

Yan Shen said...

What I want you to do is to think a bit more carefully before you comment on here. Here's how I know you were desperately flailing away. You insinuated in an earlier post that Asian Americans were race-obsessed. This of course is an extremely strange sentiment, given the fact that white liberals, blacks, and Hispanics have the market cornered on racial kookiness. So clearly, that was an instance where you basically thought to yourself, "Let me think of how I can bash Asian Americans."

The thing is that you should think before you open your mouth. Then you might not come off as bad as you did. When you behave like an asshole, you get treated like one.

MtMoru said...

Yan and TheGuy's love letters are too long.

MtMoru said...

"...but I have Asian friends--way more than the average person.  In fact, something like half my family is Asian!  I know, I know: unbelievable.  But  it's true!  My roommate--he too, is Asian!"

So your roomate is Turkish? A Sikh? Maybe an Arab? Or a Persian?

Asia was an ancient kingdom in Western Turkey. Then it was a continent. Now it is a PC substitue for Mongoloid as this term is so often used to refer to Downs's Syndrome. 

TheGuyFromEarlier said...

Bonafide mongoloid.  I should start a FAQ.

steve hsu said...

I think it's gone.

steve hsu said...

Maybe even your own blog! ;-)

MtMoru said...

Thank you but there were two.

I don't think you need to be worried about your rep Steve.

Hao Ye said...

*sigh* I remember the days when the comments were (relatively) informative and insightful.  (or am I misremembering the past?) Now, I find the threads to be like a soap opera: full of drama, without substance, and yet reading them is like a guilty pleasure...

steve hsu said...

Guilty pleasure is better than nothing ;-)

Sam H said...

I think there is a program out there (sorry not sure what it is called) where comments are moderated by visitors. Comments that are inappropriate are voted down and at a point become automatically invisable, unless one chooses to expand a box which reveals their comments. 

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